February 27, 2012
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I was looking at a profile and I noticed it stated Catholic and yet the individual also commented elsewhere that she was an atheist. How can this be. I understand Christianity and I understand Atheism. However these two systems are incompatible.
1. If you believe Jesus is God in the biblical sense you believe he is eternal- that is He did not evolve.
2. Atheism believes in survival of the fittest and that man is steadily becoming more advanced where Christianity acknowledges the total depravity of man and his need for Christ.
This demonstrates that just like conservative principles and far more important people must share scripture and make sure people understand what faith in Christ is and is not.
Comments (7)
Atheism is non-belief in a god or gods, not acceptance of evolution (a theory first put forward by a deist who believed in a creator btw). And life observably evolves all the time whether you want to accept it or not. Google “evolution experiment” sometime. Here’s the first hit (link). That life evolves is a fact whether or not there is a god. Fundamentalists have their heads up their behinds.
@agnophilo - Good point of distinction. I did not mean to equate the two as the same. The idea of this post was not one on the merits of Atheism or evolution but on the incompatibility of beliefs between Atheism and biblical Christianity.
@New1E13_15 - According to evolution all animal life began in the ocean and branched out and diversified into it’s various forms. Genesis 1 and 2 give two different creation accounts, one of which says that god created the oceans and that he let the oceans bring forth the animals and the birds, and that he created the earth and let the earth bring forth the plants and flowers.
Do not confuse christian pop culture with scripture. The bible doesn’t say half of what many christians think it says on some subjects, and much more than what many christians think it says on others.
Bear in mind btw that a recent pew research study found that atheists and agnostics ranked highest in biblical knowledge on average, followed by mormons, then jews, then christians (who came in last). So you may feel odd being schooled about the bible by an atheist, but it’s hardly uncommon.
@agnophilo - I am not sure what the creation story has to do with it but the creation story in no seeable way contradicts itself. There are sea creatures and there are land creatures each of differing kinds. Scripture does not say that God created all life out of water or land. This is not two seperate accounts but one.
@New1E13_15 - One version says man and woman are created at the same time, the other says man was created, then the animals, then adam named the animals and eventually he got bored with them so god created woman from one of his ribs. The different versions also say different things were made on different days. They were recorded from oral tradition, they recorded multiple versions to try to not miss possibly important details.
And you said evolution conflicts with scripture, how is the creation account not relevant? What did you think evolution conflicts with?
Two accounts? Even so this does not contradict itself. The Bible does not say He created them on the same day rather it sais he created man in His image male and female he created them. Elsewhere it talks about how this came into beinng. If I am speaking to a particular point or audience do I not highlight certain facts without the intent to misleasd or contradict. Or if I see an event and you see the same event are we not likely to describe it slightly differently without any intention of deceit?
I agree evolution absolutely contradicts scriipture. I will say it again the main post was not about evolution but about Christianity what it is and what it is not. Though within the Christian system of beliefe there is much room for interpretive dispute anything which would cause one to deny the deity of Christ as atheism and evolution do can not ultimately be accepted by an individual in the examined life. One set of beliefs must be true.
@New1E13_15 -
“Two accounts? Even so this does not contradict itself.”
It really does.
“The Bible does not say He created them on the same day rather it sais he created man in His image male and female he created them. Elsewhere it talks about how this came into beinng.”
It says things were created on different days in one than the other, by definition it contradicts itself.
“If I am speaking to a particular point or audience do I not highlight certain facts without the intent to misleasd or contradict. Or if I see an event and you see the same event are we not likely to describe it slightly differently without any intention of deceit?”
I don’t think deliberate deceit was involved at all, I think they’re just variations on the story. But you can’t say “it’s in the bible therefore it must automatically be true” if the bible is just another fallible book written by fallible people.
“I agree evolution absolutely contradicts scriipture.”
So does the “evolution” of language contradict the tower of babel story. So does every science contradict literal creationism. The bible and science only disagree if you take scripture literally, and many things that can be objectively proven for a fact are among the things that don’t agree with a fundamentalist interpretation. Isn’t it even possible the fundamentalist interpretation is what’s wrong? Bear in mind a literal interpretation also implies that the earth is flat and at the center of the universe (which is why the church persecuted Galileo).
“I will say it again the main post was not about evolution but about Christianity what it is and what it is not. Though within the Christian system of beliefe there is much room for interpretive dispute anything which would cause one to deny the deity of Christ as atheism and evolution do can not ultimately be accepted by an individual in the examined life. One set of beliefs must be true.”
Evolution is an explanation for how life adapts once it exists, not the origins of life. Live observably evolves whether it was created by god or aliens or occurred naturally or something else entirely. In no way is it contrary to the notion that life was created. Darwin assumed life was created.
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